Many, Bill Maher too, ill informed on truth and history of complex Palestinain vs Jewish rights to land in the place they now live.
BEING "POLITICALLY CORRECT" IS NOT WHAT MANY SAY, I.E., CRITICIZNG ISRAELI INCURSIONS. ACTUALLY, SUPPORTING ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS AND VIOLENCE DESPITE FACTS OF PALESTINIAN RIGHTS BEING TRASHED SINCE 1917 IS THE "POLITICALLY CORRECT" POSITION.
The notion of Jews "returning" to their "homeland" is interesting, should be part of the negotiations, but saying Jews own the land Palestinians live on is absurd on its face!
"Homeland for the Jewish people"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland_for_the_Jewish_people
"In the Balfour Declaration of 1917, the United Kingdom became the first world power to endorse the establishment in Palestine of a "national home for the Jewish people." The British government confirmed this commitment by accepting the British Mandate for Palestine in 1922 (along with their colonial control of the Pirate Coast, Southern Coast of Persia, Iraq and from 1922 a separate area called Transjordan, all of the Middle-Eastern territory except the French territory). The European powers mandated the creation of a Jewish homeland at the San Remo conference of 19–26 April 1920.[6] In 1948, the State of Israel was established."
So how is it that Western nations and two wars were necessary for Jews to finally find a way to create their "State" in the Middle East? What I the Jewish claim to the land Palestinians lived in before the Jews arrived?
"The Jewish aspiration to return to Zion is part of Jewish religious thought that dates back to the destruction of the First Temple.[7]"
"The modern legal attempts to establish a national homeland for the Jewish people began in 1839 with a petition by Sir Moses Montefiore to Sa'id, Khedive of Egypt, for a Jewish homeland in the region of Palestine. "
Even the author of the idea of a national homeland for Jews recognized the land of Palestine. Read it!
"In 1896, Theodore Herzl set out his vision of a Jewish state and homeland for the Jewish people in his book Der Judenstaat.[9] He then proceeded to found the Zionist Organisation.
The draft of the objective of the modern Zionist movement submitted to the First Zionist Congress of the Zionist Organization in 1897 read: "Zionism seeks to establish a home for the Jewish people in Palestine secured under public law.""
So it seems only fair that Israel negotiate a fair partition of lands in the light they settled on PALESTINIAN LAND!
The religion excuses on either side, war and death and murder and abuse are true from both sides.
NEGOTIATE A TWO STATE SOLUTION THAT IS FAI TO THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE! THE JEWS DO NOT OWN THE LAND! THE JEWS TOOK THE LAND AFTER THE WEST GAVE THEM SOME OF IT!
PERIOD! FULL STOP!
ISRAEL DOES NOT HAVE ANY CLAIM TO THE LAND THEY HAVE SETTLED /STOLEN SINCE IT WAS PROVIDED BY A UN RESOLUTION, NOT BY LIVING IN TH ELAND.
ISRAEL CLAIMS LAND BY THE 1967 WAR, NOT BY HONOR OR DEED.
Palestine [HISTORY OF . . . ]
Author: History.com Editors
Updated:Aug 21, 201; 8Original:Aug 11, 2017
https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/palestine
"What came first Israel or Palestine?
The Arab-Israeli War grants Egypt control of Gaza.
Before Israel became a nation, the majority of people dwelling in the region were Palestinians—Arabs who lived in what was then known as Palestine. On May 14, 1948, Israel was officially declared a state, marking the first Jewish state in over 2,000 years"
March 30, 2018
Of course there are now arguments of terrorism and oppression, religious rights, human rights, the West helping Israel, Hamas and Hezbollah helping the Palestinians (probably Iran and Russia, even possibly China), respect issues, dignity issues, revenge issue, destiny, and so on.
THESE ARE EXCUSES FOR AVOIDING PEACE! WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER! AT BEST, PALESTINE AND ISRAEL SHOULD HAVE A STATE FOR EACH.
It's about human rights, Bill (Maher). If YOU knew the history better you would know Palestine was real post-WWI That's the war before Israel was created, Bill! Israel came into existence by favor of the West, and Israel decided to take land that was the Palestinian land. THE land grab, Bill, started all the wars, NOT ANTI-SEMITISM!
All Muslims, and Palestinians . . . feared as terrorists. The fact is the 911 killers came from Saudi Arabia, the Sunnis! Of course, this only means the Saudis sponsored terrorism. What is funny is that the US government is so perverted it has decided the enemy is Iran more than the Saudis! lol!
Some Jewish defenders of the Israeli incursion into what originally was Palestinian lands say Israel existed thru some arcane historic situation. It is contrary to the fact British ruled a part of the Middle East as we know that geography, PRIOR to WWII, and the fact is Israel was not created until 1947! Palestinian existed PRIOR to Israel!
I wrote about the Middle East and the Palestinian vs Jews two state issue a year or so ago. The history is clear that Paletinians were residents of the land Israel now holds, and that Palestinians PROTECTESD Jews in days of your!
Bill Maher stepped on his dick and has shown HE is the one who does NOT know the history needed to understand a complex situation between Palestinians and Israelis. Bill Maher should shyt the f**k up!
So, here it is again, in a different context, the correct historic info Bill needs to be "smart," or as he likes to use "WOKE!". A pseudo-intellectual comedian spouts off foolishly, again. Bill, you are not as smart as you think.
"9 Facts About the Israel-Palestine Conflict On Which We Can All Agree"
08/01/2014 07:21 pm ET Updated Oct 01, 2014
Qasim Rashid, Contributor
Author, Human Rights Lawyer, Visiting Fellow, Harvard University’s Prince Alwaleed bin Talal School of Islamic Studies
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/9-israel-palestine-facts_b_5643077
Perhaps fact #5 is important to YOU Mr. Maher?
"5. Palestine was a haven for Jewish refugees before the creation of Israel.
Some insist on arguing that Palestine is inherently anti-Semetic. This is untrue and Palestine’s historical actions prove otherwise. Before Israel’s creation, Palestine willingly accepted some 700,000 Jewish refugees escaping World War I and the Holocaust. This is a massive number considering Palestine’s Muslim population in 1947 was only around 1.2 million. That said, Palestine did not vote for the creation of Israel. Instead Israel’s creation was imposed on Palestine by the United Nations. We often hear the talking point “no country on Earth would tolerate rockets raining down on its civilians.” No doubt this is true, but in fairness we must also accept that no country on Earth would tolerate being split in two without the right to self-determination or a say in the matter. If you disagree, imagine if tomorrow the United Nations decided half of your country would go to another nation of people — while you have no say in the matter. In short, Palestine served as a haven for Jewish refugees before Israel’s creation. It is important to draw on this history when trying to find common ground for the future."
Some may say this statement of facts is somehow biased, and that would be sad. This is one of few attempts to be truly correct and open on the facts.
Message to Bill Maher: it is not Bull Shit that the Israelis are oppressing the Palestinians, and the Palestinians did not start this fight, you dummy!
Jesus, Bill, you are such a dork! Your arrogance exceeds your ignorance or maybe not!
BILL, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS NOT READ AN UNBIASED HISTORY OF PALESTINIANS VS ISRAELIS!
Palestinians were in the land where Israel resides BEFORE Israel was created. In the '30s Arabs PROTECTED Jews. The killing between Palestinians and Jews started in a fury after the 1947 UN Resolution, and due to WESTERN INTERFERENCE!
Learn / study / think the very COMPLEX history of the Jews settling in the Middle east before judging current political-correctness for and or against EITHER Palestinians or Jews!
"Liberal comedian Maher blasts anti-Israel BDS movement: 'A bulls--t purity test'"
By Andrew Blake - The Washington Times - Saturday, August 17, 2019
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/17/bill-maher-calls-movement-to-boycott-israel-a-bull/
"Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher spoke out Friday against the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel, calling it “a bulls– purity test” for fellow liberals.
The host of “Real Time with Bill Maher” made the comment during a live episode of his weekly program in light of Israel recently banning two U.S. congresswomen from entering the country over their support of the international BDS movement.
“BDS is a bulls– purity test by people who want to appear woke but actually slept through history class,” said Mr. Maher.
“It’s predicated on this notion, I think it’s very shallow thinking — that the Jews in Israel, mostly white, and the Palestinians are browner, so they must be innocent and correct, and the Jews must be wrong. As if the occupation came right out of the blue, that this completely peaceful people found themselves occupied. Forget about the intifadas and the suicide bombings and the rockets and how many wars,” he said."
Maybe a boycott of sorts is wrong minded by people who have not studied enough of the history of the Middle East, BUT I bet Bill doesn't know much more. In fact, I KNOW Bill doesn't know much more about the history of the Palestinians in the land Israel is settling - daily land grabs based on weak, specious logic of the grabbers.
I'll bet Bill doesn't even know the term "Middle east" is a geographically complex location on the map!
"Bill Maher Boycott Urged By Rep. Rashida Tlaib For His HBO Slam On Her Israel Boycott"
By Bruce Haring pmc-editorial-manager 18 Aug 2019
"Fresh off being barred from Israel and then turning down a humanitarian visit to the West Bank, Rep. Rashida Tlaib has now called for a boycott of HBO’s Bill Maher, who has termed her efforts a “bullshit purity test.”
Tlaib tweeted that she was tired of folks like Maher “discrediting a form of speech that is centered on equality and freedom.”
She added: “This is exactly how they tried to discredit & stop the boycott to stand up against the apartheid in S. Africa. It didn’t work then and it won’t now.”
The call against Maher continues a volatile stretch for the Michigan Democrat, a member of The Squad of freshmen whose radical agenda has seemed to move their party to the far left."
Bill, the boycott is about oppression by a dominant, US BACKED power over a weaker people who have been supplanted from THEIR NATIVE LANDS!
"Bill Maher justifies Netanyahu’s racism by saying U.S. has done much worse
Opinion"
Philip Weiss on March 22, 2015 103 Comments
https://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/justifies-netanyahus-racism/
Bill Maher has been a defender of Israeli oppression of Palestinians for a while now . . . back to at least 2015.
"Defending Israel’s policies can have a corrosive effect on your politics. Bill Maher, who is thought to be a progressive, defends Netanyahu’s last minute appeal to Jewish voters to get out to the polls so as to counter Palestinians “heading to the polls in droves,” by questioning whether the statement was racist and saying that if the U.S. were in Israel’s position it would do much worse: deny Palestinians vote and maybe “put them in camps.”"
Bill, you aren't smart or intelligent or aware in this case, for sure. I have always wondered if you really had "it." You don't. You dumb!
"And I thought the Willie Horton ad of 27 years ago and the Japanese internment of WW2 were bad things that the U.S. learned from! That is the error in Maher’s thought: he is saying that Israel has a right to recapitulate all the mistakes of the west. There was slavery in the U.S. too; I suppose that justifies the occupation, in Bill Maher’s view."
