Sadly, the US Government has it's own over-reach and malicious behavior to blame for the power of the NRA.

Rational debate and discussion not possible due to attack by gov.

Read The Week history of NRA.

You know the argument against gun control is vapid, empty, a lie, when the NRA people and Laura Ingram/Fox News fears and disrespects the opposing viewpoint with bullying tactics, name calling, fear baiting.

GUNS ARE NOT A SACRED RIGHT!

CONTROL DOES NOT MEAN TAKE GUNS AWAY!

KEEP YOUR GUNS, BUT ALLOW CONTROL OF YOUR GUNS FOR SAFETY, TO QUIT KILLING PEOPLE!

THERE MUST BE CHANGE!  WE CANNOT AVOID CHANGES!  And maybe we DO need to get rid of the NRA.  Look how they defend their "position."

"NRA host taunts Parkland teens: ‘No one would know your names’ if classmates were still alive"
 
by Cleve R. Wootson Jr. by Cleve R. Wootson Jr. Email the author Post Nation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/24/nra-host-taunts-parkland-teens-no-one-would-know-your-names-if-classmates-were-still-alive/?utm_term=.dc0d8b5cb3ef&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

If the NRA had any honest logic to their position to do nothing, to put more guns in schools, would they need to say things like this?  No.

This kind of hateful bullying indicates the NRA has no response to the carnage.  It's too bad kids died?

"The latest attack came from Colion Noir, a host on NRATV who took to the airwaves on the eve of the Parkland teens-led March on Washington, telling them: “No one would know your names” if a student gunman hadn’t stormed into their school and killed three staff members and 14 students."

Add to this creep, Mr Colon Noir, the idiocy of the female Sean Hannity, Dana Loesch, and you have a pair of ugly, sick NRA defenders.

"Colion Noir is a pseudonym for Collins Iyare Idehen Jr., a lawyer and gun rights activist from Houston who has nearly 650,000 subscribers on YouTube. "

More.

"But Noir accuses the teens of being downright un-American in creating a march he says is designed to promote stripping others of their Second Amendment rights."

Idehen , like Loesch, do not understand NO ONE WANTS their guns, except maybe the AR-15.  These teens simply ask for control of guns that will allow them to live their lives without fear of guns.

If a suspect is running away after reported, SUSPECTED property damage, DON'T KILL HIM!  Do not kill people to protect PROPERTY, and do not kill people because they wear a hoody!  Do not kill people because they are black and they scare you!  See the story of another police murder below, this time in Sacramento, CA.

Maybe even David French, a writer, can understand control that is effective is "Red Flag laws.  Guns can be removed from a potential short temporarily, adjudicated, then if all is well, the guns will be returned.

Gun rights advocates that say guns are Americans MOST SACRED Constitutional right, ahead of freedom of religion and speech are f**king crazy stupid, and illogical

GUN CONTROL IS ABOUT GUN USE DISCIPLINE.  PERIOD!  ONLY GUN USE DISCIPLINE WILL SAVE INNOCENT LIVES!

Even the police understand what is meant by gun discipline, as another unarmed black man was killed by 20 bullets (A hail of fire!  Isn't 2-3 bullets enough?) yesterday, 21 March 2018.

"Police shot at a man 20 times in his own yard, thinking he had a gun. It was an iPhone."

by Alex Horton and Wesley Lowery     March 22, 2018

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/21/police-shot-a-man-20-times-in-his-back-yard-thinking-he-had-a-gun-it-was-a-cellphone/

"Police say they saw an object in Stephan Clark’s hand before they fired 20 bullets that killed him in his back yard Sunday night in Sacramento, a disturbing moment that was made public through body camera footage released Wednesday night.

The two officers were responding to a 911 call about a man breaking vehicle windows when they encountered, then killed, Clark, an unarmed black man."

White Privilege comes to mind.  Careless, poorly trained, frightened police comes to mind.  David French would call this "self-defense" I suppose . . .

These police executed a black man they thought was breaking car windows?!  Are you kidding!  Death without committing a crime?  White Privilege means believing the police will not shoot you for owning a cell phone!

There is absolutely NO REASON for this black man to be dead.

"An analysis by The Washington Post found that 987 people were killed by police last year — 68 of them unarmed. Of those unarmed victims, 30 were white, 20 were black and 13 were Hispanic, showing an overrepresentation of African Americans among the total population. Five of the remaining fatalities were of unknown or other race.

At least 230 people have been killed by police this year, according to The Post’s database on fatal force."

Some say Gun Rights are "sacred," perhaps they feel the gun is more sacred than a bible or religion or health? Really?  NO!

"Clark is at least the sixth person shot and killed by the Sacramento Police Department since the beginning of 2015, according to a Post analysis; five of them were black men, the other a white man."

It would be funny if the police had not just killed an innocent man, but they asked him if he had a weapon after !  lol

"“Sir, can you move?” an arriving officer calls into the night at Clark, minutes after the shooting, telling him they cannot help unless they know he does not have a weapon."

Guns are extremely powerful and kill people.  Anything that KILLS people has to be tightly controlled!  Control is the absolutely obvious solution to guns killing people, so why does anyone argue with it?  MONEY.  PERIOD!  

The Second Amendment DOES NOT SAY GUNS SHOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE UNFETTERED FREEDOM. 

The Second Amendment does not say gun ownership is a "sacred" right, and owning and using guns should be without controls.  We pass laws controlling where rifles are fired so people a mile away do not get killed!

Why can't we pass more laws controlling gun use?  MONEY!

Thus, they should be controlled like we control firecrackers and other extremely dangerous objects and "toys."

We live in a hopelessly gun crazy culture, manipulated by the National Rifle Association.

"Poll: Most U.S. Teachers Want Gun Control, Not Guns To Carry
Anya Kamenetz           March 22, 2018

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/21/police-shot-a-man-20-times-in-his-back-yard-thinking-he-had-a-gun-it-was-a-cellphone/

It's a simple idea., a logical fact  Teachers have enough to do to teach, and do NOT want to have to think about their gun!  Of course, gun aficionados, teachers who like their gun, will be happy to a=carry them.  But most teachers do not want the "extra duty" of monitoring their gun each morning getting ready for work, and while at work.

"The Gun-Control Debate Could Break America"

By David French About David French            February 22, 2018 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/the-gun-control-debate-could-break-america/

"A rage more personal than political exists on both sides, and poses real danger to the ties that bind us as a nation."

"Why the Left Won’t Win the Gun-Control Debate"

By David French                March 5, 2018 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/gun-control-debate-liberals-wont-win-heres-why/
 
[picture deleted - Angelina Lazo (center), an 18-year-old senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, protests in favor of gun control in Coral Springs, Fla., February 16, 2018. (Jonathan Drake/Reuters)]


"It’s too hard to persuade people to willingly surrender the right to protect their own lives.

That is a mischaracterization of gun control David!  Defending our homes and families is NOT what the gun control issue is truly about.  Slaughter on public streets is what gun control is all about!

"Last week I wrote a long essay in The Atlantic that represented my best effort [Too bad it was based on a wrong assumption about home defense.] to explain “gun culture” to those who may be more hostile to gun rights than, say, the typical reader of National Review. I began by describing threats to my family and how a person’s decision to carry a weapon is often directly tied to personal experience of real danger. [What percent of people are attacked on the street vs attacked at home David?  How many FAMILIES are threatened on the street David?  Do you have data on your side?  What data supports people using guns in defense vs offense?  What data shows MORE guns make us safer?] Today, my friend Bethany Mandel published a similar essay in the New York Times, describing how her mother once chased off an intruder with a gun and how she herself decided to buy a gun when her family was threatened during the 2016 presidential campaign. [One (1) example, David, does NOT help your argument!]

The goals of both essays are simple: to destroy stereotypes and to explain that the individual decision to purchase and carry a gun isn’t rooted in some sort of strange gun fetish or Wild West swagger but rather in the fundamental desire (and right) to protect your loved ones from harm. If arguments for gun control don’t grapple with this reality, then they’re destined to fail."

David's logic is not logical because gun control is not about taking anyone's gun from them!

"First, there’s an odd argument that it’s somehow illegitimate to make a decision based on “fear.”"

I call BS!  Bullshit!  I bought two gun to defend my home and family, and do not fear daily attacks.  Even if I buy a gun due to fear, so what?  Gun control does not have to be halted because I buy a gun out of fear.

"Next, you immediately hear that you’re foolish. That “you’re more likely to hurt yourself than defend yourself.” "

This is true David, but STILL not the point.  "Fundamental liberties" include killing others?  Others who lose their liberties because they are DEAD!

"Moreover, another person’s irresponsibility is irrelevant to the existence of my fundamental liberties. I don’t surrender my free-speech rights because another person uses theirs to troll Twitter. "

No, David, you don't lose your rights unless you abuse your rights, just like any other criminal!  If you act to HURT others YOU LOSE THAT RIGHT, which includes hate speech harmful enough to do bodily, physical harm to people!

"John Locke described the right of self-defense as a “fundamental law of nature.” It is an unalienable right every bit as essential to human liberty as the right to speak. Indeed, when a person experiences an actual threat, the need to exercise that right of self-defense becomes more immediately primal and deeply felt than any other constitutional right."

You are kidding right?  No one wants to take away your right to self-defense.  Our society should control and manage people's instinct for self-OFFENSE, the natural ability to attack rather than defend!

David is truly silly.  Look at this:

"But shame is weaker than love. Gun owners who’ve experienced a threat possess or carry a weapon because they love their families. Teachers who wish to carry a weapon at school do so because they love the kids under their care. These folks know that their responsible gun ownership makes their communities and families safer."

The data does not show a lot of lives saved by self-defense using a gun.  Some lives are saved, but MANY MORE ARE LOST BY GUN!  NO one wants to take away anyone's guns!  We want to control them because we are humans who die from bulletts, not as Liberals or Conservatives!

The absolute DUMBEST thing David French says is this:

"Why does the Left keep losing the gun debate? Because it’s hard to persuade any man or woman to surrender an unalienable right — especially when exercising that right helps preserve the most vital right of all, the right to live."

The right to live belongs to everyone, the right to kill does not.  Self-defense is NOT PART OF THE DEBATE YOU IDIOT!